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Maybe if God was in High Definition, pocket sized, added them as a "friend" and sent regular text messages.........
The "X" & "Y"ers are currently too busy worshipping their false idols. They'll come when they need to, as long as you're there when they do.
Mind you, I'm 36 and have always had strong opinions on church and matters spiritual. I don't believe in the pointless collection of "stuff" (which probably explains being drawn to CBG's) so I'm really not the ideal person to answer your question. I do know, however, that if you try to make/ lure them, they won't come. They're "busy" they need a pretty darn good reason to put down the playstation. Unfortunately that is usually a tradgedy and they find themselves totally unprepared for dealing with it. Anyway, I'll cease and dessist before my "Rant Filter" fails completely.
Hope I helped - doubt I have
Love & Light
Ray
Whats wrong with church? plenty I'd say..indeed, it'd be hard to know where to start.
Its somewhat disingenuous,imo, to imply young people aren't interested cos it aint in hi def.Young people can smell bullsh*t a MILE away.
Lets take my experience as say,a 14 year old.At that age I was dating a girl who couldn't take me to meet her folks-I was banned from ever visiting their house-my crime? I was in the 'wrong' church-she being Catholic and me being Church of England.I was brought up turning the tv on and seeing people bombing each other over there in Ireland every single week.You pick up history books,a Catholic queen'd get on the throne and burn the Protestants, then a Protestant queen'd get on the throne and burn the Catholics.sheesh! and still it goes on-now I see Islam dudes sawing off another guys head whilst proclaiming 'God is great'..you dont need a potted history from me to see humans have a done a pretty crappy job of representing something wonderful, no matter what the denomination.
I have only recently had a little of my faith in clergy restored when I saw vicars taking on the cops at various anti war marches-now there was a dude whose church I'd visit.
You've probably gathered by now I dont attend church.Apart from this one.
I believe in God and I know Jesus is real (we met once-but thats another story).
If I sound angry its because I am.It aggravates me when neat things get screwed up.
Laters HB
I agree with Jawbone that people don't think that much about seeking God, until they experience something they think that the can't handle for themselves. I always found it interesting that when couples started having children, they decided that the needed to bring/take them to church. They didn't realize that a relationship with Jesus would not only be the best thing for them, but it would also guide them as parents, making things even better for the children they are concerned about in the first place.
As far as seeking the 20 and 30 somethings, continuing to preach/teach the truth of the Bible, while making sure that the language is clear and not too full of the terms that only those that have been in church all their lives will know is as good a strategy as any!
well Sam I dunno-its a tall order for sure-I think maybe to be there for them, but unconditionally (like God is).Now as a teen I was always looking for a place to rehearse loudly with my band-lets say you had a church hall and you let me play there for a nominal fee or whatever-never saying its the 'devils' music or judging me in any way..that'd make a mark on me.I'm not saying open up your hall and let kids hang out taking drugs and ridiculous stuff, obviously, but you know..I think the softly softly approach might work-kids are very smart-they'll get repelled by a hard sell, as well they might.dunno its just an idea..
Melissa and I have found ourselves rather lazy (indifferent?) about attending church. I know all the advantages of going...the lessons, the support and most of all, our duty to SERVE. But we moved a couple two years ago to this new neighborhood which has a church ACROSS THE STREET. Yet, with young kids (4 and 7), we always have to be well prepared to have things planned out, figuring out what the sunday school schedule is and whatnot. And then with ourselves, its also a matter of feeling like outsiders coming into an established congregation with families that have been attending for generations.
I'm probably not making much sense or just babbling. I guess the biggest hindrance is that feeling on Sunday morning of "I don't feel like being social with people I don't know." I'd like to just be with others like me, get 'fed' and have my kids learn Bible stories as a foundation.
We've attended a newer church that was very contemporary and modern...and found it lacking in depth. They seemed to take the whole service from pre-packaged Purpose Driven Life-type lessons.
Give me something deep to think about each week and inspire me to serve. Give it to me in a way that doesn't insult my intelligence. Encourage original art/music within the church (not canned Maranatha music) and make it relevant. Oh, and no plastic smiles.
shane
Shane,
Yours is a typical experience that hands the church a real delimma. From the inside we say that "We welcome Everybody" and for the most part really try to be, but as you say to someone from the outside it just feels different....
2 Questions:
Did you try going to that neighborhood church 3 Sundays in a row? If not, what would it have taken to have gotten you to do it?
and, Have you ever thought of hosting a home based Bible Study so that you could set the agenda and "go deep"?
I've done everything but stand on my head (literally, we've pretty much stood the program of our church on its head to make it more inviting with little/no success). Let's keep talking... every generation needs a close encounter with God.
Blessings,
Sam
Shane Speal said:Melissa and I have found ourselves rather lazy (indifferent?) about attending church. I know all the advantages of going...the lessons, the support and most of all, our duty to SERVE. But we moved a couple two years ago to this new neighborhood which has a church ACROSS THE STREET. Yet, with young kids (4 and 7), we always have to be well prepared to have things planned out, figuring out what the sunday school schedule is and whatnot. And then with ourselves, its also a matter of feeling like outsiders coming into an established congregation with families that have been attending for generations.
I'm probably not making much sense or just babbling. I guess the biggest hindrance is that feeling on Sunday morning of "I don't feel like being social with people I don't know." I'd like to just be with others like me, get 'fed' and have my kids learn Bible stories as a foundation.
We've attended a newer church that was very contemporary and modern...and found it lacking in depth. They seemed to take the whole service from pre-packaged Purpose Driven Life-type lessons.
Give me something deep to think about each week and inspire me to serve. Give it to me in a way that doesn't insult my intelligence. Encourage original art/music within the church (not canned Maranatha music) and make it relevant. Oh, and no plastic smiles.
shane
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