Tags:
Three threads opened on one subject within an hour lacks symmetry, you'll need to add one more for balance.
to be honest I think it a bit of a cheek to be asking for money to set up a business like venture.
even if it is a tutorial vids, if its a cause as I understand it charity?.
so is he planning selling the dvd's and all proceeds to charity? or his own pocket?
its a bit like me asking all classic bike owners to contribute in setting up a business,so that I can to sell them obsolete parts that are no longer available.
if he want to help folks then why not do as you has done you tubes. you don't need fancy back ground.
he already has some you tubes post so why not??
it hasn't offend one iota.
the only way that I can be offended is a punch on the nose
some people do this as a business....we all have to eat!
and so do we.
when I started my business ,I started with nothing and built it up over the years.
every thing in life is a gamble and I made mine .
I often get ask ..do I have this or that but I don't expect folks to cough up their cash in order for me to buy all that I need to set it up.
so as far as J.J concerned he has been doing this for several years so he say.
if so he should have saved up incase he need a new source of income or set up a new business ,
even if it is tutorial. how ever you look at its still a business.
I have very mixed views on this sort of "crowd funding"...if there's an arrangement whereby you get back a return on your investment (that's your typical sort of sharefolder / investor deal), then I can see that's it's equitable on all sides, but to ask for money for your business venture just on the strength of a feel-good factor for the supporter, that feels a little one-sided. I know I'm behind the times on this...and behind the game no doubt, and it's the way to go for many performers to make recordings etc...but there's always something in me that feels if you want to make it happen, you make it happen off your own back....you figure out your costs for labour, materials, bought-in services, overheads etc, you forecast the potential sales, figure out the percentage return, set a retail price and determine a net profit...and put your own money and effort into it. My daughters clued me up a bit more about crowd funding in the music scene..apparently there's a lot of projects don't reach the target level of contributions set by the entrepreneur (or artist/business person whatever you want to call them) ...so then the project doesn't happen, and the money doesn't get given back...money for nothin'. I'm not casting aspersions on this project, but the basic principles sort of sit uneasily with me...but then I'm out of touch with these new fangled ways....
Well, a classic example of the potential thorny problems with Kickstarter.
Project target $6000, actual sum raised $13 000 plus..that's a straight bonus profit $7k plus whatever profit was built into the original projections.
Here's some words lifted directly from the Kickstarter site...
"Some projects that are funded on Kickstarter may go on to make money, but backers are supporting projects to help them come to life, not financially profit."
That's patently impossible to control, as backers have no control whatever on how the money is used. In this example, what happens to the $7 000 "surplus"?
"Can Kickstarter refund the money if a project is unable to fulfill?
No. Kickstarter doesn't issue refunds as transactions are between backers and creators directly"
It indicates there are no real world obligations on the part of the entrepreneur. This is a heck of a feeble set-up that is all about making money rather than producing results..could that be because Kickstarter take a 5% cut of all money raised?
"Kickstarter cannot be used to offer financial returns or equity"
So Kickstarter actually forbids supporters benefitting in the usual business model as typified by shareholders or investors...a pretty cute twist on capitalism.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not having a pop at Justin for doing this, and if you want to plow money into it that's your concern, but it seems all the benefits are for the originator of the project, there's no real accountability, no control
I did wonder about all of this...looking at the promotion video and all, and was wondering.."Has this already been filmed and edited before the Kickstarter money was secured"..and indeed it has. A couple of days ago Justin announced on Facebook they'd finished the editing of the DVDs...so basically, it's all been done in advance. It appears that the project didn't need the funding to make the project happen, because the project had already been completed. Very smart.
To be fair, Mr. Johnson did not post this discussion.
He posted to his YouTube channel where it would be be viewed by his fans who would likely be interested in contributing to the project.
Professional quality video production is a great deal of work and consequently is not free.
His presentation of the project on his channel is not offensive and crowd funding is a viable business practice.
Started by Bill Andy in Performances, How to Play, Lessons, Concerts. Last reply by Southern Ray May 7. 11 Replies 0 Likes
Started by Bill Andy in Performances, How to Play, Lessons, Concerts. Last reply by Taffy Evans May 5. 6 Replies 0 Likes
Started by J. D. Woods in Performances, How to Play, Lessons, Concerts. Last reply by Southern Ray Apr 26. 8 Replies 1 Like
Started by Southern Ray in Other stuff - off topic, fun stuff, whatever. Last reply by Southern Ray Apr 26. 6 Replies 0 Likes
Started by J. D. Woods in Performances, How to Play, Lessons, Concerts. Last reply by BrianQ. Apr 25. 4 Replies 0 Likes
Started by Rich Butters in Building Secrets, Tips, Advice, Discussion. Last reply by Crazed Fandango Apr 22. 4 Replies 0 Likes
Started by Nomad Jack in Performances, How to Play, Lessons, Concerts. Last reply by J. D. Woods Apr 17. 7 Replies 2 Likes
Started by Moritz Voegeli in Building Secrets, Tips, Advice, Discussion. Last reply by Southern Ray Apr 14. 6 Replies 2 Likes
Started by Timothy Hunter in Other stuff - off topic, fun stuff, whatever. Last reply by Timothy Hunter Apr 10. 14 Replies 3 Likes
Started by Tom T in Building Secrets, Tips, Advice, Discussion. Last reply by Southern Ray Apr 9. 9 Replies 0 Likes
Started by Southern Ray in Building Secrets, Tips, Advice, Discussion. Last reply by Southern Ray Apr 4. 7 Replies 1 Like
Started by Timothy Hunter in Building Secrets, Tips, Advice, Discussion. Last reply by Southern Ray Mar 27. 1 Reply 2 Likes
Started by Taffy Evans in Building Secrets, Tips, Advice, Discussion. Last reply by Southern Ray Mar 10. 1 Reply 3 Likes
Started by Cigar Box Nation in Feature Articles. Last reply by BrianQ. Mar 9. 4 Replies 3 Likes
Started by Ghostbuttons in Building Secrets, Tips, Advice, Discussion. Last reply by Timothy Hunter Mar 9. 5 Replies 1 Like
Started by Justin Stanchfield in Building Secrets, Tips, Advice, Discussion. Last reply by Taffy Evans Mar 8. 6 Replies 0 Likes
Started by Ken I in Building Secrets, Tips, Advice, Discussion. Last reply by Brian partington Mar 8. 8 Replies 0 Likes
Started by Southern Ray in Cool gear discussion - that's not cigar box related. Last reply by Southern Ray Mar 6. 5 Replies 0 Likes
Started by Taffy Evans in Other stuff - off topic, fun stuff, whatever. Last reply by Taffy Evans Mar 5. 4 Replies 2 Likes
Posted by Vlad on March 31, 2024 at 11:48pm 0 Comments 1 Like
Posted by Vlad on March 6, 2024 at 2:32am 5 Comments 2 Likes
Posted by billy jones bluez on February 28, 2024 at 2:09pm 0 Comments 0 Likes
Posted by billy jones bluez on February 17, 2024 at 11:00pm 0 Comments 0 Likes
Posted by Vlad on February 11, 2024 at 1:06am 1 Comment 1 Like
© 2024 Created by Ben "C. B. Gitty" Baker. Powered by
Cigar Box Nation is presented by C. B. Gitty Crafter Supply, your one-stop-shop for Cigar Box Guitar parts and accessories!