So maybe you're like me...you started building these Cigar Box instruments but have also branched out into other areas of instrument making/repair. You quickly learned that in order to do it "right" you need to figure out this whole hide glue thing. You go on Stewmac, checkout that glue pot for $115, add on the glue...it starts to add up. You keep putting it off saying, "I'll get it before that next project." Good news! You can start using hide glue for just $25! I found this simple hide glue kit from the International Violin Company, based in Baltimore. It comes with a warming plate, two jars to make a double-bath, 1/4 lb. of hide glue, applicator brushes, and best of all...easy to read instructions written in English! Of course you can mix up a batch in a small crock pot, but its nice to get it all together and know that it was meant to go together. Let me know if you have any luck with it.
http://www.internationalviolin.com/item_detail.aspx?ItemCode=T823
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Ok, very newbie question, what is hide glue and what is it used for on a CBG?
I won't even put my mane to this one...
Ok, very newbie question, what is hide glue and what is it used for on a CBG?
I won't even put my mane to this one...
HIde glue is THE traditional woodworking and lutherie glue. It's made from animal hide and comes in granules, to which you add water, then carefully heat to get the glue ready for use. It's cheap, very strong, doesn't creep under stress and is reversible (good for repairs). It's been around thousands of years and is still the choice of many luthiers.
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Michael R Cossey said:Ok, very newbie question, what is hide glue and what is it used for on a CBG?
I won't even put my mane to this one...
Just to add a caution, older instruments all used hide glue, which leads to a disaster if left out in wet weather. I know due to having two old fiddles that fell apart after getting wet. I'll never be that stupid again.
Also we didn't mention this, but I don't know of anyone who thinks that liquefied hide glue (sold like wood glue) is acceptable. Just stay away!
Does this mean the Titebond hide glue can't be removed with heat/water?
Ben said:
Also we didn't mention this, but I don't know of anyone who thinks that liquefied hide glue (sold like wood glue) is acceptable. Just stay away!
Scotty, I believe it can be reversed but the problem with it is that it also has the consistency of wood glues (additives to keep it liquid at room temperature) and will creep when clamped. The awesome thing about going from powder and water is that when mixed correctly, it has a very similar consistency to water. All you have to do is get everything "wet" and clamp it.
And with that statement, you have just sold me on using hide glue. Thanks, Ben...
Ben said:Scotty, I believe it can be reversed but the problem with it is that it also has the consistency of wood glues (additives to keep it liquid at room temperature) and will creep when clamped. The awesome thing about going from powder and water is that when mixed correctly, it has a very similar consistency to water. All you have to do is get everything "wet" and clamp it.
Ben, I got a hot plate from the thrift store and use it in my shop. It was about $10.
As a side note for 10 years I repaired all the instruments, string ,brass and woodwinds in our school district. Glad to be done with that phase of my life.
Ben, I got a hot plate from the thrift store and use it in my shop. It was about $10.
As a side note for 10 years I repaired all the instruments, string ,brass and woodwinds in our school district. Glad to be done with that phase of my life.
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